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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

As a female veteran, I say "Amen" to what the general wrote. Standards do change when women are introduced. Some of that may be good but much of it is bad. When USAF was first putting women in the...

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Standards

Standards are lower for women than men. We raise them to man size, we'll see what happens.

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Commandante of the Home Office

Just my two cents - it's not about opportunity but about feminist preening - looking good until the shit hits the fan.

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

if its a drag carry yes, otherwise the standard is buddy carry. If she can get through infantry training she'll be fine.

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RE: Women cannot hack close combat

Wow, you can't make up what a moronic caveman you are. Your fellow marines must be so proud to count you amongst them. Like I said, I know some female soldiers that could slit your throat without...

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opposition

I know your instant reactions to my "opinion" will be either anger or irritation but please, just hear me out. Not one person on this planet is a duplicate of another. Man or woman. Who is capable and...

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TF Chimera Women

I have to call BS on this one. These women humped 110 lb packs on a daily basis? And since you brought up female "paratroopers" I will tell you this: I went through US Army Jump School in 1980 and some...

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Quick Test

Pam, carrying heavy loads when adrenaline hits is entirely different than carrying 100+ pounds all day in extreme conditions. Before any more females post saying that women can do this, I suggest you...

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Retired

NO !!! Enough of this P>C. Bull $h!T !!!

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NO...just NO

Men are men. Women are not. Women do not belong everywhere, regardless of "Can do" or "Can't do." Mother of four women, grandmother of eight young ladies, seven young men.

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Trojan

My Norton just isolated a trojan attach when I logged onto Mikes site here.

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Find, fix & fight

I agree that the question is about the infantry (but would open it up to the maneuver combat arms) and not "combat". I believe the Marines and the Army have made the conversation go the way it has by...

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Very punny...

Strange.... My Honda is just fine. :P

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*rolls eyes

I hear this BS all the time, and usually from people who claim to be in front line units themselves but parrot that they know women who can beat every man or slit peoples throats etc etc... Nobody said...

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LTC-RET PSYOP Assiciation

This is not going to work. There may be some women who make the grade physically, but what about mentally and psychologically ? And what about the demands of the average woman's body? What about the...

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10th SFG

Thanks for responding without getting mad :) I know you are the experts and I respect your comments. I have hauled some pretty heavy loads but not in a pack. A barrel full of my own freshly chopped...

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Stryker Dad

When your back is against the wall, like the Russians were at Stalingrad, you do what you must to survive. Even putting women in combat. Our backs are not yet against the wall. In WW11 women took the...

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

Rape is alive and well in the military, for both men and women. Prisoner torture is thus a non-unique factor and not what this conversation should focus on.

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

I was in the AF 1973-1977 and it was a time of bringing in women to the ranks and they were held to a different standard. Women were not expected to perform to the same requirements as the men. They...

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

That should change with the times as well, because that's BS,. Equal rights means equal everything. How many would change their minds about this (men and women) if that was the case and standards were...

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A LOAD OF BS!

I have served with women like this too! If you want to meet women who can exceed the oh-so-hi minimum standards of the military, go to FT BRAGG!!! There are enough female Soldiers there that can easily...

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Has Beens Should Know Their Place

What I love about all the posts here is they are all by HAS BEENS. I got it, women "back in the day" (Vietnam era) couldn't hang with you imfantry types, and there are no women in your VFW lodges...

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Retired Infantry

Personally I think that women will do fine. It's us men that I worry about and that gives me pause to women in combat. We men in the Infantry have a puffed up sense of right and wrong; moral and...

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Retired

Just thought I should clarify that when I say retired I mean medically retired in 2012 from injuries suffered in Afghanistan not retired like the post above mine "Has Beens Should Know Their Place"...

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

I've had quite a bit of exposure to various countries armed forces over the years (ABCA mainly) and also across a variety of branches (Inf, Armour, Engineers, Arty, Logistics, Aviation and SOF)....

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

The issue of male soldiers protecting female soldiers within an infantry unit needs to be dealt with as well: Israeli Experience with women in direct combat (sure there are female snipers etc; but they...

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

This is a GREAT article. A PUBLIC Hearing affords opportunity for the wisdom of a G.S. Newbold, Lieutenant General, USMC (Ret.). There wasn't any and the Bill was signed. I want to extend the Idea of...

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@gordon

how do you know they didnt lower the standard? I know plenty of people in the CF including women and the biggest complaint is lowered standards, so I have trouble believing that.

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RE: @gordon

I asked some of the operators myself. If anything selection is harder. Well at least for CANSOF.

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Better Infantry?

To all the women thinking they can be in the infantry: Be truthful, do you think that women in combat will make the infantry any better than it is now?... You women who think you will make the infantry...

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Hard Cold Facts

To support my previous assertions that women in general are just not physically capable of the daily rigors of life as an infantry"person ", I give you this. This is an official assessment from a...

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Will not make the Inf. or SF better

The only way women should be accepted is if they are going to make it any better than it is right now. Will they make either better? Can any woman say, being truthful that they will be better?...can a...

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Re: Seven Myths About Women in Combat

As a former Amazon woman, I'm thankful that somebody in the position of Newbold is willing to be truthful. I grew up blessed with natural athletic ability and was extremely competitive with my three...

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Bravo ma-am

Thank you. Your son's challenge is perfect.

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Couple of things

Cold War vet, never saw the elephant... Most of the guys in my USMC M-60A1 tank co could hold a 105 round (40ish lbs) under each arm when loading. The tank can be a dangerous animal to feed and care...

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Am I the only one...

Am I the only one worried about the emotional effects of a period when combined with a loaded firearm in a stressful combat zone? Way I see it, its like giving a guy with Bipolar a gun, training on how...

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Mr.

If someone were to mandate that women by permitted to play football, then standards would have to be lowered. Women’s bodies are designed to bear children.

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RE: Women cannot hack close combat

What you just wrote is complete nonsense. Start citing actual proof instead of "I know some Israeli chicks who can..." It doesnt mean shit

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RE: Women In Military Roles

[quote name="SunTzu"]L et me start off by clearing the air here, ...I served right alongside women in the 2nd Combat Communications Group :D who had to field deploy with us and live in tent city...

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I agree

This is exactly a conversation that my son and I had 2 months ago. He is very concerned about his chances of survival if females are allowed into his career field. He is TACP with the AF.

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Treasure hunter

women are allowed to play football ,at least in my state Penn.,at the jr. high level about 20% girls in some schools, in the past twenty years I have heard of only two that made any high school team...

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Free thinker and citizen

At first I was riding the fence about female soldiers in combat situations but was leaning towards not supporting the idea. Then I took the time to read every comment posted here. I believe now,...

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Can You Be More Stupid

Seriously..woma n are capable, it will open up higher ranks and more awards to them. It is a civil rights issue. Just because i m a female doesn't mean that I shouldn't be allowed to AT LEAST volunteer...

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Women in Combat

Arianna, just as you say, you're 14 years old. You have NO idea what you're going on about. Women in combat will not work, nor will it ever work. You Arianna, could not carry 80lb pack, 400 rounds of...

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RE: Can You Be More Stupid

Arianna, Sorry you feel the way you do. You're viewing this issue solely with the mindset of what benefits you as an individual. Any branch of service you undertake will skew the notion "the...

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re: Can you be more stupid

Arianna, I was a 14 yr old once who was probably very much like you (I played tackle football with the boys, could still beat most of them arm-wrestling, all that). As I stated before, over the next...

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

Right now as we speak female fitness standards are lower then males and The first two female lieutenants to volunteer for the Marine Corps’ Infantry Officer Course failed to complete the program......

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SMSgt USAF (Ret)

Interesting article and great thread. I know I ought to "know my place," but I can't help applauding Chris G's calm and personal description of his self-doubt on standing up to the torture of a female...

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SMSgt USAF (Ret)

Your disrespect for your elders does not speak well of your character, son. You will one day regret this thinking while sipping bottled water in a VA waiting room. Just a has been's observation.

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RE: Seven Myths About “Women in Combat"

I'll speak it. Women who are captured in war will be raped. Repeatedly and brutally. Let it happen. They wanted to experience war, they got it.

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